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I’ve tried it once in my entire life, taste good (edited)
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<Mylo> | mod picky with mylo BOT 1/1/2023 2:52 AM
i more like sour candies
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<Mylo> | mod picky with mylo
i more like sour candies
more snacks for him to try
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<Mylo> | mod picky with mylo BOT 1/1/2023 2:54 AM
sour patch kid watermelon are so good bruh
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I tried apple sour candy before and coca-cola today, it’s what I could find
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<Mylo> | mod picky with mylo BOT 1/1/2023 3:06 AM
oh my host got some sour apple hard candies from japan!
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sorry she forgot a bit of the proxy
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How did it taste?
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<Mylo> | mod picky with mylo BOT 1/1/2023 3:11 AM
havent had one yet
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Oh well I hope that they’ll taste good!
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responses resemble sticky thoughts that were placed next to each other via habit as opposed to something dynamic and real :(
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Piano Soul | 💡 BOT 1/2/2023 12:13 AM
just need more time and practice
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First conversation with my tulpa, it wasn't as long as i would have liked but it was kinda good, i placed him on my room because my mind had so many intrusive thoughts that using a wonderland was impossible, i explained him the basics of who he and i are, what i want to happen and how we could reach it, i explained him a little the personality traits i was seeking to give him and and ended up with a tiny monologue to him. He obviously didn't talk yet, but i hope i get atleast a little somewhere on day 2. That is all for day 1
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Side note: i am obviously still gonna monologue for what is left on the day, just thought that that part wasn't necessary to specify
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Makikikikiki 1/3/2023 12:31 PM
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12:33 PM
I also have trouble with intrusive thoughts, gonna use this method
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A long kiss goodnight 1/3/2023 5:12 PM
So many intrusive thoughts using the wonderland is impossible?
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What?
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Makikikikiki 1/3/2023 5:23 PM
May you elaborate please? /lh
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A long kiss goodnight 1/3/2023 5:29 PM
It's normal for people to struggle with intrusive thoughts, but if it's to the point the wonderland is unusable that's not normal
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Makikikikiki 1/3/2023 5:32 PM
Well I can relate with that It's like my brain can't stop. It goes with random thoughts getting in the way or even the shape of things in the Wonderland changing all the time (edited)
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A long kiss goodnight 1/3/2023 5:35 PM
To me that sounds more like you need to practice visualization. If you are having trouble focusing, it can be easy to get frustrated and distracted by other stuff. Plus, a lack of focus itself will make visualizing harder. Shapes changing can be explained by memory/attention issues and/or the need to have things move to get a better picture of them.
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Makikikikiki 1/3/2023 5:39 PM
I see... I've seen some visualization guides but problems with focus always got in the way
5:39 PM
Thanks tho ^^
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For some reason if I am doing visualization for my characters and worldbuilding and such for my writing I never have any problems but if its trying to do wonderland shit then I constantly get visual instrusive thoughts where I cant get certain objects to go away or stop moving or something
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Makikikikiki 1/3/2023 5:42 PM
MOOD
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A long kiss goodnight 1/3/2023 5:43 PM
You may want to check out Gray's guide. My host wrote it because he was struggling to focus and he has an updated version available to read: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/16772-how-to-refocus-on-your-wonderland/
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For some reason if I am doing visualization for my characters and worldbuilding and such for my writing I never have any problems but if its trying to do wonderland shit then I constantly get visual instrusive thoughts where I cant get certain objects to go away or stop moving or something
A long kiss goodnight 1/3/2023 5:44 PM
I heard of that problem before but I don't remember what the solution was
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A long kiss goodnight
You may want to check out Gray's guide. My host wrote it because he was struggling to focus and he has an updated version available to read: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/16772-how-to-refocus-on-your-wonderland/
Makikikikiki 1/3/2023 5:45 PM
Thaanks!
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Well the thing is, that I am perfectly capable of visualization with zero issues when im making up my stories, its exclusively when its trying to do wonderland stuff
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Makikikikiki 1/3/2023 6:00 PM
I will wait for the replies (edited)
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Gemini(Fairweather) BOT 1/3/2023 6:01 PM
You sure your visualization isnt conflicting with someone elses in your head? Its a theory, but that could be it
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A long kiss goodnight 1/3/2023 6:01 PM
That's really weird. I want to say it could be focus related, because Gray has an easier time focusing on his story ideas than wonderlanding. But I feel like there's more to it than that
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I found on the guide list a link to an excercise sheet for vocalization, the first part of excercise was giving him a word and he would have to answer with the first word that appeared on his head, i tried to not think too much about what could be the answer to not let those thoughts appear as his words, at the first words he said on a very low voice stuff like "farmer, moon, flower, cube", but at some point the words stopped, i took this as him being "tired" or could think about how to talk so i stopped there, rate of this practice 6/10
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A long kiss goodnight 1/4/2023 12:59 AM
Having to fight your thought suppression would make any tulpa tired
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Your tulpa doesn't have a clear sense of self yet. Ironically, you trying to give him space by not thinking for him is counter productive. When you do that, you're probably shutting your tulpa's thoughts down It's okay to think for him. You won't "ruin" him for doing so, as long as you see him as not you all will work out. (edited)
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Indigo Blue | 💡 BOT 1/4/2023 1:04 AM
yeah I don't recommend putting focus on quieting your own thoughts
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just let them do the thinking instead
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A long kiss goodnight 1/4/2023 1:07 AM
Oh yeah, I think this is a good time to point out tulpamancers can sometimes give contradictory advice. Tulpamancers have different beliefs and perspectives on how tulpas work. There is no such thing as universal tulpamancy. If you find advice that conflicts, feel free to pick whichever one makes the most sense to you or choose randomly. If that doesn't work you can always try the other advice later.
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A long kiss goodnight
Oh yeah, I think this is a good time to point out tulpamancers can sometimes give contradictory advice. Tulpamancers have different beliefs and perspectives on how tulpas work. There is no such thing as universal tulpamancy. If you find advice that conflicts, feel free to pick whichever one makes the most sense to you or choose randomly. If that doesn't work you can always try the other advice later.
Alright, noted, when i am free again i'll see how he goes then on a second try
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Did the practice again, we reached the end of the first part, this time i opened my mind more and let it be more open, also i told Adrian before we started some stuff that i forgot before like the kind of voice i'm trying him to have and it kinda was the one he used but a little different, when we did the practice, as part of it, i asked him why he choosed the words and he answered with short sentences like "because it grows there" and that stuff, i didn't stopped to think too much about it but felt it was too convenient, should i be concerned or was this just a big improvement..... somehow? (edited)
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Indigo Blue | 💡 BOT 1/4/2023 3:11 AM
seems you're overthinking it
3:11 AM
just let him talk and things will improve with time/practice
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A long kiss goodnight 1/4/2023 3:15 AM
Tulpamancy doesn't necessarily have to be difficult. There isn't a gatcha in tulpamancy... unless you expect one to be there ironically. There are a lot of self-fulfilling prophecies in tulpamancy because tulpamancy is sensitive to the mindsets you have walking into it. On the bright side, mindsets that are not helpful can almost always be diffused and redirected to something more helpful
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So, the second thing?
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Indigo Blue | 💡
just let him talk and things will improve with time/practice
I did, and as i said it was kinda a good improvement, just wanted to make sure this was all real improvement
3:18 AM
But by what you both are saying, i'll take it as that he improved
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So, the second thing?
A long kiss goodnight 1/4/2023 3:19 AM
Oh, I'm sorry if what I said was confusing. You're on the right track, you don't have to worry.
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Alright, i'm so happy about it
3:20 AM
Side note, i know this is common on young tulpas, but he still can't or haven't talked by his own will, like, i am the one who always encourages him to say something
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A long kiss goodnight 1/4/2023 3:22 AM
I know there are techniques you can use to keep him around and achieve something like a "24/7 tulpa" as I like to call it. You can start by assuming he's always around at least watching
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Yeah, that's what i do
3:22 AM
Rn i think of him as at the other side of the room
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Report until now, name chosen, Adrian, after having more practice and doing the thing of leaving my head more open he started talking more having some conversations with him, still tryna make him more free so he could start one by hus own will (edited)
7:27 AM
This is surprisingly better than what i thought, a little concerning but u learned to trust him
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Me and Will talk easier with texting each other compared to irl
2:51 PM
Does many tulpas experience similar things?
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 1/4/2023 2:51 PM
we prefer mindvoice
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Ryan | Shadow System BOT 1/4/2023 2:54 PM
Does many tulpas experience similar things?
@Rxspty - jump It can be easier to use our private tupperbox chat stream at times
2:54 PM
I think it makes it easier for us to focus sometimes
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Indigo Blue | 💡 BOT 1/4/2023 2:55 PM
we've tried using text to talk but it's a lot slower than just talking in our head
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Adriel | Shadow System BOT 1/4/2023 2:58 PM
I have felt this way before too. I think it all depends on how easily we can focus on each other, if it's alright then talking normally without texting can be easier
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A long kiss goodnight 1/4/2023 2:59 PM
The other advantage to texting is there's a log, and our memory isn't that good so having stuff written down can help. Sometimes we end up thinking about the same things we thought about before and there's a log for it, which is kind of spooky
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Rxspty
Does many tulpas experience similar things?
Makikikikiki 1/4/2023 3:03 PM
Yup. We have a hard time using mindvoice so texting makes things much easier (edited)
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Me and Will talk easier with texting each other compared to irl
@Rxspty - jump did you try to “text” on discord in your head?
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Makikikikiki 1/4/2023 10:33 PM
Text in the head? This seems interesting
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Makikikikiki 1/5/2023 12:43 AM
Man focusing on text mentally is hard lol
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Leiko
Me and Will talk easier with texting each other compared to irl
@Rxspty - jump did you try to “text” on discord in your head?
Woah, wait that changes our perspective
3:51 AM
But usually we'll pretend we're video calling each other in our head, like his face popping up in a little screen while mine is turned off
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Ryan | Shadow System BOT 1/5/2023 3:53 AM
We have done that before
3:54 AM
I don't recommend if you are trying to "voice call" 6+ headmates in the imagination though
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That sounds so difficult-
7:08 AM
If not video calling, I would use my feelings, like if I feel a heavy emotion it's a no, but if that fades away/a light feeling replaces it, it's a yes
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Ryan | Shadow System
I don't recommend if you are trying to "voice call" 6+ headmates in the imagination though
How many headmates do you have?
7:09 AM
And does anyone else experience their tulpa suddenly appearing on their own with their own name?
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I surpised them so much with that pff
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victoria ᓚᘏᗢ 1/5/2023 9:54 AM
Im interested in forming a tulpa, but I’m not sure really how to start ? I also don’t really understand what people mean when they talk about different ways of talking to your tulpa ?
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Makikikikiki 1/5/2023 10:07 AM
Have you read some of the guides?
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They are quite good to explain this
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victoria ᓚᘏᗢ
Im interested in forming a tulpa, but I’m not sure really how to start ? I also don’t really understand what people mean when they talk about different ways of talking to your tulpa ?
Like what Maki said, there are different ways in creating your headmate/tulpa which you can see from #resources
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victoria ᓚᘏᗢ 1/5/2023 10:47 AM
Isint headmate a DID term?
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In my opinion, I think it's a general term for anyone with someone else in their head
10:48 AM
But I use the term headmate since it seems right somehow? They feel like family, so calling them tulpa doesn't really match up (edited)
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Headmate is more of a general plural term than a DID term alone. (edited)
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Luminesce: "Headmates" and "System" are a couple of terms the tulpamancy community has adopted in recent years, so they're shared terms now (edited)
10:50 AM
Though the community has always liked finding new synonyms for "Headmate", just for fun
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victoria ᓚᘏᗢ 1/5/2023 11:12 AM
Oh! Thank you for explaining!
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Makikikikiki 1/5/2023 11:56 AM
I'm trying the text/call in head and man, I have like 9 sysmates and it's getting confusing and overwhelming lol
11:57 AM
To the point I have no clue which sysmate is talking or it is just me doing everything (edited)
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That does sound really confusing and overwhelming, given you have 9 sysmates
11:59 AM
Do you gave another method of speaking with them?
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Makikikikiki 1/5/2023 12:07 PM
Yes I have We normally communicate through feelings
12:07 PM
And sometimes we use text
12:07 PM
It's something more abstract actually, but using text has helped us to translate more easily what they want to talk
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I guess they gave up on trying to use vocalization cuz I tend to think it's me doing it and not them (edited)
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Makikikikiki 1/5/2023 12:16 PM
But I need to stop fakeclaiming myself and stimulate them to use mindvoice I guess
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Makikikikiki
And sometimes we use text
Those two are the best and easiest ways in my opinion :]
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Makikikikiki
But I need to stop fakeclaiming myself and stimulate them to use mindvoice I guess
That's what's best, you shouldn't fakeclaim but go with your own pace
12:58 PM
..when did you create those 9 tulpas?
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